Another Manchester mosque hosts anti-kafir, antisemitic, homophobic and pro-jihad speakers. GM Police pop in for a cuddle.

Posted on May 27, 2017

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I noticed this tweet on Tommy Robinson’s Twitter:

If you’ve read the blog post on Manchester Islamic Centre you’ll be having a touch of deja-vu in a minute.

Lets get the first mosque mentioned in G M Police’s tweet, Manchester Central Mosque, out-of-the-way first.

It’s a Barelvi mosque so the chances were that main man, Tahir-ul-Qadri, had been invited there at some stage. And here he is (centre) at the mosque:

As you would expect, Qadri condemned the terrorist attack in Manchester:

But it’s the same old story. If you hear a scholar condemning terrorism there’s a good chance they’re a nutcase on other subjects.

Here’s Qadri on Pakistan’s blasphemy laws:

“I would like to lift the veil that this blasphemy law, article 295C, the law which came into existence in this country,I would like to present to the public, whose efforts have led to this law. It was I who had this law made.

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My point of view was, and I managed to get this made into law, that whoever commits blasphemy against the Prophet, Muslim or non-Muslim, man or woman, Jew, Christian, Hindu or whomsoever, no matter who of them commits blasphemy, their punishment will be death. My other point of view was that whoever apostatises from Islam may well repent, but blasphemy against the Prophet will not imply any possibility for repentance or forgiveness, rather, he must be executed immediately! I am fighting a one-man fight to shut out all possibilities to commit blasphemy. And those who open their mouths, Muslim, Jew, Christian, believer, kafir, man or woman, will be executed like a dog.”

He’s not very good on minorities either. The Muslim Times reported:

“…a blatant sectarian hate campaign aimed at Ahmadiyya community by an extremist group has overtaken the industrial city of Faisalabad in the Punjab province of Pakistan.

According to several local sources and reports in social media, thousands of billboards, banners, posters and signage on taxis and rickshaws have sprung up during the last few weeks in every part of the city advertising a ‘6-day, Qadiani Eradication Training’ offered by Minhaj-ul-Quran Ulama Council, a part of the infamous mullah Tahir ul Qadri’s Minhaj-ul Quran organization.”

And here’s Qadri’s organisation’s write-up of the Birmingham conference organised by the anti-Ahmadiyya group, Khatm-e-Nubuwwat:

Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri drew on the Holy Quran and Hadith and gave a meaty and logical talk on the subject of status and station of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). He said that he who did not subscribe to the exalted station of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) was out of fold of Islam without any shadow of doubt…

Another speaker on the panel went further:

Allama Qazi Abdul Latif Qadri, President of Jamaat e Ahle Sunnat UK and Europe, also addressed the conference and demanded of the UK government not to consider ‘Ahmadis’ as part of the Muslim community. He said that ‘Ahmadis’ should be considered as non-Muslims.

Harry’s Place provides plenty of details on the hateful antics of Khatm-e-Nubuwwat in the UK here and here.

Qadri is no small fry. Reporting on Qadri’s visit to Manchester, Minhaj ul-Quran UK said the mosque was –

“blessed by the presence of one of the highest authorities in the Muslim world in terms of Islamic learning and also one of the highest spiritual personalities and Sufis of the time, that being non other than Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri.”

On to Al-Furqan Islamic Centre. They’ve hosted quite a few naughty boys. Here’s Saed Rageah speaking at the mosque and repeating the usual warning about Jews and Christians:

3:42 “If you want to change our life and the conditions of the Muslims then we have to learn how to change ourselves. And the first step…on this step of change is for us to be independent. You know what independent means? It means you should not rely on anyone other than Allah (SWT). It means that you should put your trust in Allah (SWT) not international nations, not international governments, not this state or that state, but Allah (SWT). Because regardless of what you try to do they will never be out there for your own benefit. And they will never be happy with you until you became a follower. Not become like them, (Arabic) Allah said they will not be pleased with you oh Muslims until you follow their footsteps…you will never be peers, you will never be compatible, you will ever be equal in their size. You always have to follow…and the only time these people will be happy with us is the day we become…servants of theirs. Anyone other than Muslims always want you to be a follower. And Rasool Allah (SAW) he said (Arabic), he said ‘You will follow the footsteps of people before you (Arabic) step by step, hand span by hand span, to the point that if they enter a lizard hole you will enter after them.’ The Sahaba said (Arabic) ‘Are you referring to the Yahud [Jews] and the Nasara [Christians]?’ He said (Arabic) ‘Who else?’ This is the reality of the Ummah.”

He demonstrates this point by using one of his favourite subjects, Christmas:

“Look at the example of us following others. In dubai, Subhanallah, they had a Christmas tree. And you know how much that Christmas tree in the mall cost? Only ten million dollars, Hamdullah, when our sisters in Palestine do not have clear water to drink. Our sisters in Etheopia, in Afghanistan, in Somalia, they have no clear water to drink. But at the same time these people are willing to spend ten million dollars for a Christmas tree.

While still complaining (8:59) about the influence of non-Muslims on Muslims, in typical hypocritical style he says Muslims should be changing others:

“Do not follow in anyone else’s footsteps, just al-Islam. Let us see how we can change our present time or condition. We’re all living in the West. We’re living in a society where the people are so friendly most of the time. We’re living in a society where people will not care what you do unless you are disturbing them, and as long as you’re not getting into their space. Yet we’re not doing anything to change them. We are allowing them to change us. Why? Because we send our children to their schools. We watch their media. We listen to their information and news…so there is no way you cannot be affected by the lifestyle that we’re living in.”

Hard to believe, but Rageah’s wife is a Christian. During this speech at Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham he mentions his family:

“My in-laws also are non-Muslim and they’re very good people, they respect Islam, I respect them and they love my children, they really do.”

So far so good. But then Christmas comes up again:

“But because they’re not Muslims sometimes they do certain things that will leave some effect on that child. Last year we made Hajj so I left my two little ones with my in-laws, this is a time of Christmas…”

“What really hit me is, as soon as I walked into the house, my son he ran to me and he grabbed my hand and he said ‘Daddy come, come, come.’ So he took me to a Christmas tree and he says ‘See, Daddy? It’s not all that bad.’ Because I told him, you know, Muslims we don’t celebrate Christmas…”

“…just being in that environment was definitely not good for the children. So if you have non-Muslim family it is good to go and visit them for a very short time, but to leave a child, especially at that age, that young age, I would not recommend it.”

That’s one understanding wife he must have there. And during this speech in Toronto he has a go at liberal Muslims. Why? For getting pally with the kuffar:

“You will see a lot of them going to the kuffar, taking them as supporters and helpers and friends and allies…(Arabic) If they were true believers in Allah and the messenger (Arabic) they would never take them as allies.”

Rageah has made far worse statements on other subjects but I’ll bundle them together below with statements from other scholars and Imams who have spoken at Al-Furqan Islamic Centre. There’s a real lot to get through. You might want to grab a cup of tea about now.

Some of these speakers are:

Abu Usamah at-Thahabi – Imam at Green Lane Masjid in Birmingham

Abdul Qadeer Baksh – Imam at Luton Islamic Centre.

Murtaza Khan – visiting khateeb at Al-Ansâr Islamic Education Centre in Iford, Wembley Central Masjid, and Masjid Bilal & Islamic Da’wah Centre in East ham.

Uthman Lateef – a scholar based at the Hitting Institute.

Tim Humble – Imam at Green Lane Masjid and speaker at Peace TV.

Said Rageah – Imam at Sakinah Centre.

Here’s what they have to say:

Non-Muslims/Kuffar

“We call them stinking kafir, dirty. But, of course, akhi, if that’s going to run them away from al-Islam, we don’t say that to them in front of their face.”

“I don’t believe them as they are kuffar, and lying is part of their religion. These kuffar, they do whatever they want to do.”

“So if a Christian, a Jew, a Hindu, a Sikh, whatever religions these people have out in the open, if they have the audacity to worship other than Allah in the open and call to it, and, in addition to that, celebrate their praises to their false gods and give Allah partners and so on and so forth (Arabic) then we have enmity between us and them (Arabic) until they believe in Allah alone.”

“For how long have we seen that our mothers, our sisters and our daughters have to go and uncover themselves in front of these filthy non-Muslim doctors? Why? Because nobody has learnt that skill amongst the sisters. Nobody wants to be a dentist. Nobody wants to be a doctor. Nobody wants to be a lawyer. Nobody wants to be anything. Think about the future, about when we’re living in this country. A person should have a sense of shame that my mother has to go and expose her body to a non-Muslim doctor.”

“One, we need to know the Islamic position about doing that, right? The major sin involved, right, that could also become disbelief and apostasy, right? Informing the authorities about the Muslims, when the Muslims are involved in khair [good] and goodness and everything else, that the kuffar [derogatory term for non-Muslims] will still use for their own ends against the Muslims…And so we do not weaken the ummah [community of believers] by strengthening the kuffar. And that is exactly what spying is. You are a tool for the strengthening of their nation and the weakening of your own one.”

“Dawah is one of the reasons that a person is allowed to live with the kuffar. But living with the kuffar is a major sin, ikhwan, and it closes the door for a lot of (?) in our lives. As we sit here, ikhwan, we have to hate it in our hearts, living with these kuffar. And whether you realise it or not, it is impacting upon us.”

“No one loves the kuffar. No one loves the kuffar, not a single person here from the Muslims loves the kuffar, whether those kuffar are from the UK or from the US. We love the people of Islam and we hate the people of kufr. We hate the kuffar.”

“The majority of our Muslims have adorned the characteristics of the disbelievers, or rather of that which is befitting of the disbelievers, because not all the disbelievers have all these categories. They certainly have their first category of associating partners with Allah, no doubt, but some don’t drink, some don’t commit adultery, some don’t deal in drugs, some are righteous in their dealings with the people around them, but their crime is they associate partners with Allah. That’s what makes them from the evil of creation.”

“So the non-Muslims, part of being a non-Muslim is that they are liars, usually. Usually. In the Quran Allah (SWT) told us about all of those kuffar and their different categories.

“They fear Islam. So they have placed so much resources and wealth and money, and such conniving tactics and evil ways to send us astray, to keep us away from understanding our religion correctly. They don’t sleep at night, they work night shifts in this. And they get paid by day to send us astray and to send our children astray. This is why Great Britain has opened its doors to every Muslim country – to come here. And when we come here it’s not us they’re after. It’s our children they’re after.”

“…how many times are we openly disobeying Allah? And we know fine well that we’re doing it. And the worst of it is this copying of Ahl al-Kitab, copying of their bad characteristics, copying of their dealings and their character.”

“When the time is right, [be] stern towards the disbelievers. I am not promoting these views, even in the hadith you will find that you walk in the road, when Muslims are dominant, they made sure that the non-Muslims were pushed against the wall…That’s what Islam says but I’m not pushing that view in these days because I could be on my way to Belmarsh very soon [the audience laughs]. But the point is that when Islam is dominant, you have the right to show the power and the dominance of Islam. Even walking in the streets you shouldn’t give them way.”

“Brothers, if we are teaching the way of life of the disbelievers, of the kuffar, Allah will bring humiliation upon us. If we are seeking this name and fame, and to be pranced around the world as some kind of government spokesmen and representatives, speaking about this reformed and redefined and repackaged Islam, Allah will bring humiliation upon people like that. And be careful. Because people will be in that condition, that they will wake up as muqimeen (believers) but they will go to sleep as kuffars. And they will go to sleep as muqimeen and they will wake up as kuffars. Because we live in a time of deception.”

“Muslims to one another (Arabic) are brethren. That’s what we are trying to highlight, al-wala’ wal bara. Our association is towards who? Is towards the Muslims. Lest we find that many ulema [scholars] laid out this principle that the worst Muslim is better than the best kafir. OK, some of us, the whole thing is muddling our minds up at the moment. The worst Muslim is better than the best kafir.”

Jews

“The Yahood [Jews] make too many lies. (Arabic) ‘We’re going to be in the hellfire for a few days, we are Allah’s chosen people’ (Arabic) Kadhib![Lies] ‘We lost our country, so the world owes us, you have to give us somebody else’s country?’ I don’t find that strange. Kuffar, part of their religion is kadhib.

“…look at yourselves and look at the descriptions of Bani Israel in the Quran and you will see (Arabic) you are following the ways of the people that you curse. And this is the real solution, that when each individual person turns back to Islam and turns back to the book of Allah and the Sunnah and leaves the riba that the Jews were cursed for, and leaves the statement of the Jews that we don’t have any responsibility with regard to the other religions, and leaves the way of them with regard to questioning their prophets and constantly turning away from the truth, and leaves their way with regard to the issue of amanah and fulfilling the trust, and all of the other descriptions of them in the Quran. When we stop following them hand span by hand span then perhaps Allah azza wa jal will give us victory over them.”

“The jews strive their utmost to corrupt the beliefs, morals and manners of the Muslims. The jews scheme and crave after possessing the Muslim lands, as well as the lands of others. They have fulfilled some of their plans and continue striving hard to implement the rest of them. Even though they do engage the Muslims in warfare involving strength and arms and have occupied some of their lands, they also fight them by spreading destructive thoughts, beliefs and ideologies; such as Freemasonry, Qadiaanisim, Bahaaism, Teejaanism and others – seeking the support of the christians and others, in order to fulfill their objectives.”

“We have become Jews in our clothing, Jews in our eating and Jews in everything that we do, and the other half is Christian in everything we do. Muslims are following one of these accursed nations. And people are still not waking up to understand the fact that these people are enemies towards us.”

Non-Muslim festivals and events

Christmas is an assault on our children right now. There is an assault, especially during these days. These days we have to get involved with sitting those children down and telling them it’s not permissible for the Muslim child to participate in any aspect of Christmas celebrations, from A-Z, impermissible.”

“As for the issues which oppose Islam, then we are firm whether they are our [non-Muslim] mothers or our fathers or our children, which oppose Islam, aqeedah, iman, which oppose tawheed, we’ll be firm. In the long run they will respect that. I know one person who, when his grandmother died, that person was unable to go to the funeral because of obviously the shirk and everything, his mother went absolutely mad: ‘How can you not come to your grandmother’s funeral? Your grandmother brought you up just as much as I brought you up’ and so on and so forth’. It went on for such a long time but he didn’t go. And he didn’t go and the funeral went on.”

“Any of their pagan rituals and celebrations, it is not befitting for the Muslim to participate in them….this is what you call a contamination, an epidemic at the moment the evil that we’re surrounded by at the moment. It may sound harsh but we don’t greet or even respond to any slogans. To say things like ‘have a happy new year, a good new year, give out greeting cards, prosperous new year, a festive season, this is not allowed for Muslims to do. We do not greet them.”

Offensive jihad

“Verily Allah is going to bring a group of people that he loves and they love him, these people will who will be soft and kind to the believers and they will be rough and tough against the kufaar, they will fight in the cause of Allah.”

“And then the other extreme is the apologists who say there’s no jihad in al-Islam unless the Muslims are attacked, and that’s a lie. It’s a lie, similar to the lie if a man wants to get married to a second wife he has to get permission from the first wife. The first wife can’t have babies or there has to be a problem with her, all of those crazy ideas come as a result of weaknesses in the Muslims, physically and the way we think. Allah (SWT) mentioned in the Quran about the middle course of al-jihad, and it is from our deen (Arabic) ‘Fight them so there will be no fitnah and the religion will be for Allah.’ Fight them so there won’t be any fitna, shirk won’t run rampant on the earth. It’s your responsibility to stop that…So is it permissible for any speaker, any Muslim to come today and to say there’s no jihad?…no one says that except someone who doesn’t know the religion or someone who is being paid by the kuffar.”

“So why would the mother say ‘I don’t want my child to learn about jihad. I don’t want the father to teach him martial arts. I don’t want the father to teach him how to box. I don’t want that. I don’t want you teaching him, putting these foreign concepts in his head because if he goes to jihad he’ll die.’ If he dies, the very first person in the line for the benefit of his shadada is his mother, his teacher, his uncle. That’s the virtues of that, ikhwani.”

“…we want to prepare ourselves for the real jihad, the jihad of the Quran and the Sunnah, when the time comes. As it relates to jihad, no one in the United Kingdom has the authority to claim this is jihad or that’s jihad. Jihad is determined by the scholars of al-Islam. And when they determine it, and they claim it, then we don’t care what these kuffar have to say about that.”

“Why are we apologising? Why are we afraid? ‘Uh oh! This is a hot topic. Let me get out of here. I don’t want my name on a list!’ as the people participate in a class about jihad. No, we don’t apologise about that, and we don’t apologise about four wives, and we don’t apologise about slavery.”

Women

“Islam and Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala) is telling us in the Quran: stay home because otherwise you’re gonna cause fitnah to a lot of people…Allah created women for beauty…so women are like this they must understand. They should stay at home and not come out of the house unless it’s a necessity, otherwise Shaytan will take advantage of that and leave the people being tested and tried.”

“If she doesn’t compromise her Islam and she can protect her religion…she’s not a fitna for them (men) and they’re not a fitna for her, inshallah it is permissible [to pursue higher education] but it is better for her to stay in her home. (Arabic)  Stay in your homes women and do not make the display of the times of jahiliyya. If the woman comes out of her home, he said, (Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) the Shaytan beautifies her.”

“Any woman who comes out of her house, perfuming herself, every single eye that looks at her, she is an adulterous woman.”

“The other thing that we need from the sisters, in terms of freedom, your freedom is not based on the understanding of the Western society, is not based on the understanding of non-Muslims, is not based on the understanding of so-called liberal Muslims, it should be understood based on the Quran and Sunnah, and Islam is telling women (Arabic) – stay home as much as you can, don’t go outside unnecessarily.”

“No man has the right to talk to another man’s wife except with his knowledge and permission, to talk with his daughter except for with his knowledge or permission, his sister except with his knowledge or permission.”

“Allah has created the woman, even if she gets a Phd, deficient. Her intellect is incomplete, deficient. She may be suffering from hormones that will make her emotional. It takes two witnesses of a woman to equal the one witness of the man.”

“If you find, and you’re satisfied that those believing women who make hijra to you, if they are believing women, then do not return them back to the kuffar. Those women are not halal for those kuffar and those kuffar men are not halal for our women.”

Female circumcision (FGM type 1a)

“…and then the one [FGM 1a] that is the sunnah that the prophet allowed – it goes against what the World Health Organisation said. Any tampering is not acceptable with the World Health Organisation and if you do that sunnah in the UK you are breaking the law and you can go to jail…the kuffar they attack the Muslims for the sunnah, I’m not talking about the second and the third group [FMG II & III] , we are against that, the deen is against that. But the sunnah where a little bit is done, …didn’t bring anything that is going to harm the people, and you don’t have to do it but the point is the kuffar they attack our religion and they describe our religion as being barbaric for having this particular sunnah there… don’t apologise to people for anything about our religion.”

“Recently I went to Leicester. I gave a talk about FGM, Female Genital Mutilation, something that Muslims do and non-Muslims do as well where they oppress the women, the culture of jahiliyya. The majority of the occupants at the lecture at Leicester University, most of them were kuffar, although the Muslims needed to hear the message. But the Muslims who were there, when we began to talk about us, from the Islamic perspective, that there is a type of circumcision that is from Islam, but the second type and the third type that Muslims and people do is haram and the Nabi said you shouldn’t do it, anyway do yo know who became most upset with me? In the discussion it was the Muslim women who were upset. It was the Muslim women, when it was time for the Q and A session, who were attacking the Sunnah.”

Female non-Muslim slaves

“…a man can have a concubine in al-Islam when Islam is being practiced correctly. And for every man that’s in this masjid right now, he can have, that one man, this many concubines in addition to his four wives. That’s the religion of al-Islam. If he had money it’s permissible for him to have this many concubines when Islam as practiced correctly. The people will say ‘Why are you mentioning that here? You’re embarrassing us.’ If you’re embarrassed then something’s wrong with you and your religion. That’s what Allah has revealed in his book.”

“No doubt, ikhwan, the right hand possession, the milk al-yamin is from the religion but it is not being practiced today correctly, because jihad is gone, because the khilafah is gone, because al-Islam is not being practiced correctly in the earth, in the dunya. So the people who are practicing the milk al-yamin are not practicing it correctly. That’s in the Muslim world. What about here? It is a fact that the milk al-yamin should not be an issue that we have a problem with.”

“The Prophet (SAW) has allowed in al-Islam, if a person has a slave it is permissible for that person who owns a slave to establish the hadd [punishment] on his slave. That’s permissible. And it happened during the time of Rasool Allah (SAW) on a number of occasions. So the permissibility of it is restricted. It is constricted, it is tight. He said (Arabic) in an authentic hadith, that’s been collected by Imam al-Bukhari and Muslim, (Arabic) ‘If one of your slave girls has committed zina, and her zina is apparent and proven, then flog her. And if she does it a second time then flog her. And if she does it a third time then sell her, even for the meagre price of a piece of rope.”

Ex-Muslims

“And then finally the hadith ‘baddala deenahu, faqtuhulu’, ‘Whoever changes his religion then kill him.’ ‘Whoever changes his religion then kill him’…This is talking about the Muslim man or woman who changes their religion from Islam to anything else. Kill them in the Islamic state because he has made a form of shirk and that he has legislated for himself what Allah (swt) said was haram. And it’s haram for him to change his religion. So the Muslim who changes his religion, the penalty for that is death because he said it was halal.”

Q – “The punishment of a murtad is death in Islam. Is this not against the freedom of speech?” A – “…Islam tells you, before you become a Muslim, these are the rules, these are a system. If you’re in, you’re in for life. You can not take back…Islam tells you, you wanna stay non-Muslim? You stay non-Muslim. The day that you become Muslim, then be careful, you can not go back, it is your choice…”

Q – “So, for those born into…a Muslim family, they have no choice in the matter?” A – “…lets say they decide they don’t wanna be a Muslim anymore, they don’t wanna live in the Islamic environment, then they can leave, but they can not live with a Muslim country, society like that. In that they have no choice, yes”

Blasphemy

“Muslims do not tolerate anyone to insult Muhammad, Isa or Jesus, Moses, any of the prophets of God. If you’re in a Muslim country and you insult Muhammad or Jesus, you will receive the same punishment because both of them are the messengers of God…You know, in Christianity they make fun of Jesus, right?…and it’s fun for them and they laugh and this is just for fun. If a Christian does that in Saudi or a Muslim country he will get in trouble…” Q – “When they’ve fallen in trouble what is the penalty?” A – “…it could also, y’know, be to the point as far as killing that person if he doesn’t repent what he’s saying…”

“If the Imam wants to crucify him (the blasphemer), then he should crucify him. The person is put up on the wood and he’s left there to bleed to death for three days.”

Stoning

“The one who is married and he commits zina he is stoned to death. The one who is not married and he commits zina he is flogged one hundred times and he is put out and expelled from the city for a year, that comes from the sunnah…The fornicating woman and the fornicating man, flog both of them one hundred times for what they did. Flog both of them one hundred times and do not allow any mercy to cause you to refrain from flogging them in the religion of Allah. Stand up for the truth and establish the religion.”

“Islam tells us the person who practices such practices (fornication), if they’re a married individual then their punishment according to sharia is they are to be stoned to death, that’s the Islamic punishment. If they have never been married before they’re supposed to be flogged a hundred times and (Arabic) to be sent out of the village or the area.”

Alcohol

“If the person drinks khamr [wine] once, then flog him. And if he drinks khamr a second time, flog him. If he returns and he drinks it a third time, then flog him. If he drinks it a fourth time, then kill him. That’s the religion of al-Islam.”

Magic

“The reward, or the punishment for being a magician is that that individual is killed. And he’s killed because that’s what Umar ordered when he was the Khalifah. He wrote a letter to the Muslims and in that letter, in the Islamic state, he said (Arabic) ‘Kill every single magician man and magician woman…So those are clear proofs that show us that the one who is a practitioner of sihr [magic], he is to be killed.”

Homosexuality

“But even greater than that is (Arabic) the zina of homosexuality and the zina of lesbianism. The Prophet (SAW) said (Arabic) ‘Kill the one who does it and the one who it’s being done to.’ (Arabic) Kill the one who was on top and the one who was on the bottom whether it’s a man or a woman. And this is going to come, inshallah, in Kitab al-Kaba’ir – (Arabic) homosexuality, and how the companions looked at it, and how they used to punish them, and the severity and the seriousness of it, it’s from the worst types of zina.”

“…this is the teachings of Islam and every moderate holds that these are the punishments in an Islamic state…you can criticise it, you can disagree with it till the cows come home.” Interviewer: “I actually want to represent moderate Muslims who are listening who might say actually well I’m a moderate Muslim and I don’t want homosexuals to be punished for being homosexual.” Response:  “…an ideal society is an Islamic state as far as I’m concerned. Living in an Islamic society, that’s the ideal…”

“You go outside of our masjid on Green Lane, you make a right, on the corner of Green Lane and Coventry Road the non-Muslims put up there a big poster giving dawah to lesbianism, only a few metres away from our masjid…Muslims, we should make a point about issues like this. Those kuffar should hear our opinion about issues like this. We should have enough organisation, enough leadership to let those people know this is not tolerated in our community.”

“So now they said if a Muslim, or anybody in the city, if one of those people [homosexuals] come to you and they wanna rent your house, your apartment, your flat, if you discriminate against them you’re going to jail. If they come to work for you in your business, if you discriminate against them because of what they do, you’re going to jail…We say Allah he will discriminate, but we’ll discriminate in a way where we don’t get in trouble. The Muslim is a dentist, one of those people come and he has that disease, that tremendous disease that Allah put in those people, and he refuses to treat him, he may get his business taken away from him. So, as the Muslim dentist, I’m going to take a big, big needle and stick it in his gum and I’m going to numb all of the parts of his mouth to get that one tooth.”

“In the hadith we find about what happens to the homosexual individual. I’m not homophobic. I believe in a natural way of life. I’m repeating to you what your Bible tells you. In the hadith you find (quote) ‘You find the people doing the action of Lot, kill the one who does the action and the one the action is being done to.’ Punish that individual. Yet what do we find today? Gay Muslim societies. If I’m wrong then tell me I’m wrong. Gay Muslim societies. Flamboyant enough to boast about their homosexuality and their lesbian acts.”

“No one in the world had ever done this action. No one had ever done this evil action on the world. (Arabic) ‘You fulfil your sexual lusts and your desires with men rather than women’. (Arabic) ‘Indeed you are people who are transgressing the bounds’. Not even animals behave in that manner.

“It is amazing that in so-called Christian countries, Jewish countries, they come and allow homosexuality. In the law it’s allowed, which is and indication of their hypocrisy and their kufr. But what’s really disturbing is the fact that we have some Muslims with a question mark who actually believe al-Islam does not address the issue of homosexuality.”

“I am vehemently opposed to homosexuality because it is against our deen. I believe in everything that al-Islam said about homosexuality. The curse of Allah is upon homosexuals in al-Islam…”

Islamic dominance

“Muslims shouldn’t be satisfied with living in other than the total Islamic State…We want the laws of Islam to be practised, we want to do away with the man-made laws.”

“There is no Muslim who truly believes in Allah and the Last Day who would deny that judging by Allah’s Law is an obligation. No Muslim who truly believes in Allah and the Last Day will believe that sharia law is not supreme. They will make sharia law the supreme authority, the uppermost authority in the land. And one who rejects this principle out of arrogance or believing another law like democracy, or secularism, or socialism or communism is better than sharia law, this person has now apostated from the religion of al-Islam according to the consensus of all the Muslims in history.”

“That is the reality of the sharia. That is the reality of Islamic law, that it has come to supersede, to override all other ways of life. It is a faith that one should not begin to turn aside, a faith which is a dominant faith…If we’re supposed to be Muslims we’re supposed to be dominant.”

“…can the hudood of Allah be implemented in the twenty-first century? Is it possible? Is it really applicable in Western society today, that the shariah will come? Will it come? People of sunnah say that will it come? How will it come? (Arabic) He is the one who sent his messenger with wudah with guidance and the right deen to prevail over all other ways of life. If you don’t believe that in your heart, you already lost. You have already lost. If you don’t believe that in your heart that Islam is going to be victorious, Islam will always be victorious. People will not be victorious, (Arabic) the word of Allah (SAW) will always be supreme.”

I’ve saved this footage of Abu Usamah speaking at Green Lane Masjid until last as it has to be one of the most shocking things I’ve heard come out of the mouths of these scholars. (3:08) Explaining the evidence behind the rare occasions a Muslim is permitted to take the law into their own hands (whilst living in a legitimate Islamic state and owning slaves), Usamah treats the audience to a story of a woman who blasphemed against the Prophet Muhammad and the (halal) punishment dished out to her. Ouch.

Al-Furqan Islamic Centre may not be aware of the statements above, and it can’t be denied that both mosques featured in this post do good work in the community. And they both condemn terrorism.

But, at the very least, the people running the mosques should be able to condemn these views and refrain from hosting these kinds of speakers in the future. Unlikely.

G M Police seem chuffed to have paid both mosques a visit. Maybe they could ask about these speakers on their next visit. Also unlikely.

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